Brand is way too immature.

[bBrand says that the rank 1 team didnt wintrade, but the owner of the team, admitted he wintraded. I asked more GMs and they said he got banned for it. Then I msg Brand, because I saw that he was gonna give the wintrader hes wintraded team back (2000 rating). So I msg'ed Brand, and this is how he reacts.[/b]

Can any Game Master, Dev, Co or even the owner, tell me why you hired a 15 year old immature Game Master.

he have been banned for a week and i told you they have done arenas for soon 3 weeks. and i'm really mad becuse thats the only thing you complain on and other is complaining on me. and you never stop whispering me and i can't close my whisper either.

and he got banned by being an dk. and if they now was wintrading it should have been taken care of last week.

vxean wrote:

he have been banned for a week and i told you they have done arenas for soon 3 weeks. and i'm really mad becuse thats the only thing you complain on and other is complaining on me. and you never stop whispering me and i can't close my whisper either.

and he got banned by being an dk. and if they now was wintrading it should have been taken care of last week.

I'm complaining about ur immaturity.

i can see that you do but it isnt wintrading i saw the whole chat and he admited that he did it a month ago it. and then didnt even that team exsist. and you never listen to what anyone says you normally act as a dick against everyone


i've done some research and this is what win trading is. and normally after i tell you to stop whispering me about it you should understand that you wont do it again. but you did, dont you understand why people get mad then?

research

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7789209219

How the exploit work:
2 teams queing 1 team does not accept the que 2nd gets it and gains all the MMR. Then they swap and team 2 joins the game team 1 doesn't ang gets MMR and CR. The problem is when teams do not join RBG and AFK out, ALT + F4 when the que pops they do not lose any MMR or CR.

How to easy fix:
Just make people lose rating when they do not accept the que for whatever reason that is. This way it would be impossible to win trade because both teams will be stationary and won't get extra MMR since they will lose actual rating once they lose the game

Here how to spot them:
1) They do not have a lot of wins. Anything below 100 is a big red flag
2) They have close to 50% win loss ratio (lose almost same amount they win)
3) They got high ratings this season all over sudden
4) They have a very poor arena experience

Here how they try to defend themselves:
1) "We qued into bunch of win trading teams ourselves"
This is false because if they did they would have a higher win loss ratio than 50%.
2) They had a lot of losses from last season. If they did than they would be still have less skill to get high ratings or it would take them more than 100 wins to get out of MMR Rut.

The list is here up on a Blizzard's ladders:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/battlegrounds/?page=1

Anyone who has 50% win loss ration or I would say below 60% and below 100 games played is MMR exploiter.

want more? yes i can keep finding information about this if you want

Yeah nice GM right there.

I'm not acting like a dick to everyone man.. I'm helping most people, and pretty much the Whole server actually likes me, so idk where you got that idea that I'm being a dick to everyone.

How can I know that the team didnt exist at the time he said he wintraded. I have no access to the logs or DBC, so I shouldnt know that. And you didn't tell me either, so do not blame me.

The information you found about win-trading is true, at some point. You have to keep in mind that the information you found, is meant for wintrading on retail. It's possible that wintraders do have a 80% win ratio or even higher. Not all wintraders do as you've mentioned.

And I didnt keep whispering you. I /w you 1 time, explaining to you why you should not give a wintraded 2k rated team back to a guy who I thought was banned a month ago because he wintraded. Then you start flaming at me, as you can see on the Photo. -_-

Zunthunt wintraded yes, she got banned then she got banned permament and then unbanned again, this got me ip banned so yeah, i won't be online for a while and a GM shouldn't say "Shut Up" to a player either.

This will be solved asap.

I agree with Philip, GMs need to watch their mouth with players.

Topic closed.